![]() So actually just call the school and talk to Jamie McDaniel. It was intrigued I'd never learned from that model in small groups, case based learning. I saw Wake Forest at the time was using an IBM or PBL process as their primary driver of curriculum delivery. And I had to get out and spend more time with patients face to face, started researching the PA profession and saw different programs at different styles of teaching, was interested in learning more. And then when I started thinking, Maybe I should look into a different career. I continued working in the morgue as a phlebotomist. And being from a small town in western North Carolina, I'd never heard of the PA profession, or seen a PA before. One of my teammates at the time who was a phlebotomist have left the team to go to what was PA school. After a few years, I started to realize that working in the morgue was taking a toll on me emotionally I kind of felt this disconnect with my emotions in reality and lost some sympathy and empathy that I think is true to myself, and started wondering if there was something else I could do. I just absolutely loved my job and thought I can actually do this combo of jobs, the rest of my life was extremely happy. Just seeing the anatomy and walking step process. The phlebotomy part really allowed me to connect with patients in the emergency room outpatient setting, in patient doing rounds and really drove my passion for just talking to patients and then being in the in the morgue doing the autopsies was just fascinating to me. Still love science still had this kind of itch for medicine became a phlebotomist and an autopsy assistant at a local hospital and really loved it. But I went to undergrad at NC State graduated in a biology degree, trying to figure out what I wanted to do with my life. But I always felt like there was a little part of being a vet that was missing for me, I eventually realized it was the communication it was just the the connection you can make with with the patients and the people. So early on in middle school, I started volunteering at a local veterinary office, except my afternoons after school on cleaning cages, walking the animals, watching them perform physical exams, and just was fascinated with the whole process. I was always interested in science, always interested actually in animals. So I was kind of the oddball in the family. My father was a professor in the School of Business, and none of them had any interest in the sciences at all. I grew up in a small mountain town in western North Carolina, and a family where my mom was a florist and a wedding planner. I really appreciate all you're doing for our profession and our future PDAs and hopefully future pa leaders. Sure, and thank you for having me on your podcast. So if you don't mind sharing kind of how you ended up in the profession and where you ended up practicing clinically, and then moving into academia. Before we get into the program, I thought we'd start talking a little bit about you in your path to becoming a PA. But I've always been known to be doing innovative things. And so you've certainly had a long track record as a program. ![]() It's such a prestigious program, I noticed that you just celebrated your 50th year a couple years ago. Well, Brian, thank you so much for joining us today, it's a pleasure to get to know you and Wake Forest. ![]() As always, you can learn more about our guest and about the Wake Forest physician assistant program on our website at pa path podcast comm under the blog section for show notes. Ryan shares some great tips for applicants related to the personal statements, and for students related to preparing for the stress of PA training. Ryan and I talked about his path to becoming a PA his time as a clinical preceptor and about his programs unique inquiry based curriculum. Brian Peacock who is the program director at the Wake Forest School of Medicine Physician Assistant Program. Well Hello, and thank you for joining us again. So we still utilize small groups as the primary delivery of all of our curriculum. We still are a inquiry based learning curriculum. We are glad you could join us as we seek to better understand the PA profession. Welcome to this episode of the PA path podcast. ![]()
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